By HottestVapes Go To PostThat in regards to BeQuiet? If so, fair enough as I haven’t looked into them that closely.
Dying 2080Ti’s are fake news. I’m shocked.
Yep.
Yeah, Gamers Nexus is doing some good investigation into this.
Glad I don't have an FE card.
In other news...
HAI SMOKEY
By DominicanPower Go To PostFinally got my replacement mouse.Good guy Logitech.
By Smokey Go To PostPSU has got to go today. More crashes. Unbearably loud fan noise.The scenes when you install a new PSU and it turns out it's something else. There will be no scenes, because you wanted a new PSU anyway.
Is the Rival 650 a really bad joke or wha?
Weighs 120g, less than 30 hours battery life, costs over 100 quid, WEIGHS 120G! Good grief.
Weighs 120g, less than 30 hours battery life, costs over 100 quid, WEIGHS 120G! Good grief.
By Adam Go To PostHAI SMOKEY
Look at this guy. I make a post about PSU problems and you strike in a moment of weakness. Fitting Dr Blade.
By Zabojnik Go To PostThe scenes when you install a new PSU and it turns out it's something else. There will be no scenes, because you wanted a new PSU anyway.
This is what I'm concerned about. Got about half way to Microcenter and turned around. I want to test a few things I have in mind to see if it's really the PSU.
By Smokey Go To PostLook at this guy. I make a post about PSU problems and you strike in a moment of weakness. Fitting Dr Blade.
This is what I'm concerned about. Got about half way to Microcenter and turned around. I want to test a few things I have in mind to see if it's really the PSU.
Just flexing 💪 when you're down is the best time. 😏
Seriously though, hope you fix your machine.
By Adam Go To PostJust flexing 💪 when you're down is the best time. 😏
Seriously though, hope you fix your machine.
It ain't broke. I'm using it now. About to 4k60 BF V when it finishes. How dare you.
It just needs some investigation and care!
After running on stock clocks and getting choppy, terrible performance at 4k, i decided to manually OC my CPU again (I used the Kibner Method for the very first time last time --letting software do it). Was fun. For some reason when I set BIOS to XMP that just reks everything. So I had to manually go in and set the settings. 4.5ghz seemed to be too much, but that could be because I've ran this chip at or around that speed for going on 4 years now, 24/7.
Anyway, I got it to 4.4, and the choppiness immediately went away. Got it running at 1.246v. Ran it through Prime and temps topped out around 73c, case fans running around 800RPMs. Everything quiet except for the fucking PSU fan.
Anyway, I got it to 4.4, and the choppiness immediately went away. Got it running at 1.246v. Ran it through Prime and temps topped out around 73c, case fans running around 800RPMs. Everything quiet except for the fucking PSU fan.
Good to hear you got it running stable again. And, for the record, Ryzen 2 chips have autoboost built-in and it rivals bios-based oc's for top-end performance while still letting it get clocked down to save power.
I also had to manually set my ram timings as system wasn't stable using XMP profiles. Used some neat software to calculate "safe" settings for my ram sticks at a given frequency. I had gotten tired of trying a million things, so it is only clocked to 2,900 MHz, which is the max supported memory speed from AMD before they consider it overclocking.
I also had to manually set my ram timings as system wasn't stable using XMP profiles. Used some neat software to calculate "safe" settings for my ram sticks at a given frequency. I had gotten tired of trying a million things, so it is only clocked to 2,900 MHz, which is the max supported memory speed from AMD before they consider it overclocking.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Post"ryzen"Nah, I have the Ryzen because I wanted eight cores without having to spend $1,000.
smokey pls
Checked for any cables obstructing the fan blades, couldn’t see any.
Checked the cable was fully in, it was.
Fan still not spinning. What’s the odds that the fan is dead or the mobo header is dead?
Edit: it’s not the header, tried a second and it was still no bueno. Could be the fan or still a a cable blocking it that I couldn’t see. Exciting Saturday morning for me tomorrow.
Checked the cable was fully in, it was.
Fan still not spinning. What’s the odds that the fan is dead or the mobo header is dead?
Edit: it’s not the header, tried a second and it was still no bueno. Could be the fan or still a a cable blocking it that I couldn’t see. Exciting Saturday morning for me tomorrow.
Nah, I have the Ryzen because I wanted eight cores without having to spend $1,000.Same here, man. Same here.
By the way, newbie here. Whenever I'm taking a break from this particular interest, I'm usually found at home, feeding my Pomeranian with some treats and watching TV with my wife. And when we're not indoors, we would play catch in our backyard with our dog (though we had to secure one of those petsafe Stay+Play wireless dog fence, just so he wouldn’t stray far from our yard. Our neighbor had a weak wooden partition, and we once had an argument when the poor fella ended up on his lawn). Such a simple, yet, happy life. Cheers!
If I wasn't at 4k where the CPU doesn't matter as much as the GPU, I would've most likely upgraded by now. Even then it did cross my mind for a second to go to Ryzen. A mobo, RAM, and CPU on the AMD side is cheaper than Intel obviously. And I feel like I'd seem some type of gain performance wise as my CPU is 4 years old, but idk.
About to pull the trigger on this fine piece of aluminium. It's 270x270x10mm, which - when split in half - is exactly what I need to make both front and back cooling plates that cover the entire length and width (and then some) of the 1080ti's pcb.
Hopefully I'll be able to reuse the whole thing with future cards. I don't think I can ever go back to non-silent gaming.
Something I've been looking for an answer to but can't quite find is what temp do I need to keep my 2700x below in order for autoboost to maintain max clocks.
If I can find that information, then I can tune my fan curves even better for silence and performance.
May need to create a reddit account for this. :/
If I can find that information, then I can tune my fan curves even better for silence and performance.
May need to create a reddit account for this. :/
By Kibner Go To PostSomething I've been looking for an answer to but can't quite find is what temp do I need to keep my 2700x below in order for autoboost to maintain max clocks.
If I can find that information, then I can tune my fan curves even better for silence and performance.
May need to create a reddit account for this. :/
Dread it.
Run from it.
Destiny still arrives.
By Kibner Go To PostSomething I've been looking for an answer to but can't quite find is what temp do I need to keep my 2700x below in order for autoboost to maintain max clocks.
If I can find that information, then I can tune my fan curves even better for silence and performance.
May need to create a reddit account for this. :/
It depends on the chip but it’s around 68-72c I believe. Check Gamersnexus for their initial testing/review, I’m sure that’s the numbers they listed.
As a last ditch I took my PC panels off and reapplied pressure on the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors. The 24 pin connector went in a bit, like it was loose. Played 2 complete Conquest rounds of BF V. No crashes.
Would explain the surges 🤔
Would explain the surges 🤔
Vapes, please help me decode this statement from GN's review:
Should I be trying to keep the cpu cooler than 61.8? Or is there a different temperature sensor on the motherboard I should use?
AMD claims that the “optimal” tCase temperature is 61.8 degrees, hence 61.8. AMD also says the optimal ambient temperature at entrance to the heatsink fan is 42 degrees at the inlet.
Should I be trying to keep the cpu cooler than 61.8? Or is there a different temperature sensor on the motherboard I should use?
I dont believe tCase is usually a temperature you can read, it's only used in the engineering of the proc for TDP calculation.
By diehard Go To PostI dont believe tCase is usually a temperature you can read, it's only used in the engineering and for TDP calculation.Blargh. Looks like I will have to post my question on reddit.
By Kibner Go To PostBlargh. Looks like I will have to post my question on reddit.as a general rule, tCase will always be several degrees lower than core temp. But i don't know enough about precision boost / XFR to help much.
By Kibner Go To PostVapes, please help me decode this statement from GN's review:
Should I be trying to keep the cpu cooler than 61.8? Or is there a different temperature sensor on the motherboard I should use?
I’m not sure, did you get that from their article or video?
I know another thing to consider is the power limit, a slight undervolt will bring down the temps and get more headroom for the CPU to boost.
By HottestVapes Go To PostI’m not sure, did you get that from their article or video?Their article.
I know another thing to consider is the power limit, a slight undervolt will bring down the temps and get more headroom for the CPU to boost.
By Kibner Go To PostTheir article.I’m sure they quoted an exact number around the range I stated in their video. Worth a look at least.
I’ve seen other tests where a chiller was used to see how much can be gained from going lower than reasonable possible and it was, unsurprisingly, not a lot. I’ll try and find that one for you now.
Annnnnd I can’t find it, lost to the vast depths of YouTube.
I did find this however, and it backs up that 71c is roughly the point of losing clockspeed.
I did find this however, and it backs up that 71c is roughly the point of losing clockspeed.
Thanks a ton, Vapes! I'm on vacation and don't have a pc with me and hotel Internet sucks so videos weren't a real possibility for me.
By Kibner Go To PostThanks a ton, Vapes! I'm on vacation and don't have a pc with me and hotel Internet sucks so videos weren't a real possibility for me.Enjoy the holiday, fam. I’ve only got my phone to use until I sort my PC out tomorrow, I feel so lost not using it when I come home from work.
By Rob Go To Postanyone playing BFV on Origin add me @ RobNBanks
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In a pickle here. Reassembled my PC and intially it didn’t boot. Switched it off, checked everything over and noticed the GPU was a hair out of the socket. Pushed it back it, switched it on and it booted.
Everything was fine, ran Cinebench a couple times and I was happy with what I was seeing. No issues. Went back into the BIOS, enabled MCE and tweaked the fan curve. Again ran Cinebench and it was all fine and dandy. Good temps (60c~).
Then I downloaded and installed Aorous Engine and ASRock Polychrome, tweaked my RGB a little with both, then ran the Siege benchmark. Towards the end of it, it crashed. Full on hard crash at that. Had to hold the power button and restart the system.
I booted back into the BIOS, disabled MCE just in case that was the culprit but alas, my PC continues to crash and stutter but now even at the desktop. It’s pretty much unusable.
So, the fuck has happened here lads?
Everything was fine, ran Cinebench a couple times and I was happy with what I was seeing. No issues. Went back into the BIOS, enabled MCE and tweaked the fan curve. Again ran Cinebench and it was all fine and dandy. Good temps (60c~).
Then I downloaded and installed Aorous Engine and ASRock Polychrome, tweaked my RGB a little with both, then ran the Siege benchmark. Towards the end of it, it crashed. Full on hard crash at that. Had to hold the power button and restart the system.
I booted back into the BIOS, disabled MCE just in case that was the culprit but alas, my PC continues to crash and stutter but now even at the desktop. It’s pretty much unusable.
So, the fuck has happened here lads?
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-controllers/razer-turret
looks like one of those flat 10 dollar walmart keyboards glued to a flat board using a standard razr mouse lol
kibner thoughts?
looks like one of those flat 10 dollar walmart keyboards glued to a flat board using a standard razr mouse lol
kibner thoughts?
By Kibner Go To PostNo clue. Something may still be loose. Reseat and replug everything?
My guess is either that or the software is bugging something out. Need to have another look today.
On the upside, I feel my cable management has never been better than this.
Well it hasn't crashed or stuttered since I reverted the DDR4 to 2133, so maybe that was the issue? I'm not sure. In any case, I'm thinking of going back to an aircooler for the time being. It's simply impossible to close the right side panel with those AIO tubes and it's irritating the hell out of me.
Ordered an Silverstone AR11. Seems like a good cooler for the size, can handle a stock 8700K with toothpaste TIM so my 9600K should be good with it.
It's pretty much a Cryorig C7, but with standard mounting holes for the fan instead of a proprietary clip. Planning to slap one of my 120mmx15mm Noctua's on it to get some good airflow over the whole board.
Ordered an Silverstone AR11. Seems like a good cooler for the size, can handle a stock 8700K with toothpaste TIM so my 9600K should be good with it.
It's pretty much a Cryorig C7, but with standard mounting holes for the fan instead of a proprietary clip. Planning to slap one of my 120mmx15mm Noctua's on it to get some good airflow over the whole board.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Posthttps://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-controllers/razer-turretThere's barely enough surface for normal mouse use, let alone for taming Beryl M762's vertical recoil in PUBG. Hard pass.
looks like one of those flat 10 dollar walmart keyboards glued to a flat board using a standard razr mouse lol
kibner thoughts?
I'm at SC18. They have a bunch if lanyards to choose from from intel, IBM, Nvidia, etc. Most people are walking around with Nvidia. Ive seen one person with AMD lol. The mindshare they have is crazy.
AMD lawst
This is why I always lol at people who say Nvidia is scared of AMD. Nvidias presence in HPC and data centers absolutely destroys AMD, and that's where the real money is, and that allows a lot of the features from that world to trickle down to consumer (ie rtx series, deep learning, tensore cores etc). And charge what they charge because AMD is weak as shit in the GPU sector smh.
AMD lawst
This is why I always lol at people who say Nvidia is scared of AMD. Nvidias presence in HPC and data centers absolutely destroys AMD, and that's where the real money is, and that allows a lot of the features from that world to trickle down to consumer (ie rtx series, deep learning, tensore cores etc). And charge what they charge because AMD is weak as shit in the GPU sector smh.
By Smokey Go To PostThis is why I always lol at people who say Nvidia is scared of AMD. Nvidias presence in HPC and data centers absolutely destroys AMD, and that's where the real money is, and that allows a lot of the features from that world to trickle down to consumer (ie rtx series, deep learning, tensore cores etc). And charge what they charge because AMD is weak as shit in the GPU sector smh.nvidia already peaked in enterprise though, they gonna face too much competition from too many competitors over the next few years.
By rerixo Go To Postnvidia already peaked in enterprise though, they gonna face too much competition from too many competitors over the next few years.
They've peaked?
I dont know if you get realize how integrated Nvidia is in the HPC space. These are multi million dollar machines with software written specifically for NVIDIA GPUs, CUDA, etc. It is going to take a long time, if ever, for that to happen (a mass transition like youre speaking of).
By NinjaFridge Go To PostSmokey loves his billion dollar corporations
By Smokey Go To PostThey've peaked?I don't really know anything about that, I was mainly thinking for ML use cases. When I say peak I just mean their influence will decline from here, not collapse. But the threat nvidia face from big companies like google developing their own TPUs is real. There are also loads of startups popping up which deal with more specialised units tailered to specific things within ML, these companies will likely be acquired making the landscape even more difficult for nvidia.
I dont know if you get realize how integrated Nvidia is in the HPC space. These are multi million dollar machines with software written specifically for NVIDIA GPUs, CUDA, etc. It is going to take a long time, if ever, for that to happen (a mass transition like youre speaking of).