By Fenderputty Go To PostOhhh god o hope she doesn’t jump in. Side line pop shots I’m ok’ish withThose aren't popshots. That's the same smear stuff you guys hate Trump for.
Saying a senator on the emerging threat committee is a Russian proxy while you have zero access and bring zero facts or proof?
I'm just saying...
By DY_nasty Go To PostThose aren't popshots. That's the same smear stuff you guys hate Trump for.
Saying a senator on the emerging threat committee is a Russian proxy while you have zero access and bring zero facts or proof?
I'm just saying…
To some extent sure, but ...
She does enough to bring that critique up already
I see Dems still using the ole they're a Russian asset trick. Worked out well last time. Seems like nothing could go wrong.
By Fenderputty Go To PostTo some extent sure, but …Other Democrats have been saying the Mueller episode went on too long as well. More were upset when Mueller handed it off to Congress only for them to shirk their responsibility like everyone knew they would when faced with responsibility. There was no gain from it and the party has suffered a wolf crier stigma for it as well by anyone who sees no other option than towing the line...
She does enough to bring that critique up already
If you want to play reality TV opinions, sure.
You've still got a blatantly false allegation thrown around as nothing more than a smear along with whatever else will hopefully stick to a wall. And for all the blatantly theatrical attacks near Iran, Syria, and Iraq lately it's kinda nice to know someone is willing to call bullshit instead of grabbing a slice of yellow cake like the rest of these clowns.
By DY_nasty Go To PostOther Democrats have been saying the Mueller episode went on too long as well. More were upset when Mueller handed it off to Congress only for them to shirk their responsibility like everyone knew they would when faced with responsibility. There was no gain from it and the party has suffered a wolf crier stigma for it as well by anyone who sees no other option than towing the line…
If you want to play reality TV opinions, sure.
You've still got a blatantly false allegation thrown around as nothing more than a smear along with whatever else will hopefully stick to a wall. And for all the blatantly theatrical attacks near Iran, Syria, and Iraq lately it's kinda nice to know someone is willing to call bullshit instead of grabbing a slice of yellow cake like the rest of these clowns.
Don't get me wrong, I agree it was a low brow attack and think it's pretty slimy. I just think she invites that narrative. Someone was going to make it.
By Fenderputty Go To PostDon't get me wrong, I agree it was a low brow attack and think it's pretty slimy. I just think she invites that narrative. Someone was going to make it.Think it's hilarious at this point.
After Hillary said it, she tweeted out that Hillary has been fighting her via proxies, and went to Tucker Carlson to voice it out. Hey, let's tweet it out too.
I admit, calling her a russian asset, as if she's working with them was probably a bit much. Still, it's clear that she knows that they are using her popularity and political stance, and not even denying it.
"probably a bit much"
Man, yal really pick and choose when you're ready to call out certain things. She doesn't even hold an office, shouldn't still have access needed to even make such claims, and outside of Biden the person she's accusing out of clear pettiness is on the emerging threats committee -vetted as fuck
If Democrats are supposed to be the morally superior party, then this is the last sort of thing you run with and cosign. It's crazy seeing people just go along with stuff like it's brand loyalty.
Man, yal really pick and choose when you're ready to call out certain things. She doesn't even hold an office, shouldn't still have access needed to even make such claims, and outside of Biden the person she's accusing out of clear pettiness is on the emerging threats committee -vetted as fuck
If Democrats are supposed to be the morally superior party, then this is the last sort of thing you run with and cosign. It's crazy seeing people just go along with stuff like it's brand loyalty.
Breh she was out there pulling a “I can’t help who supports me” when asked about the Russian troll support. I agree it’s slimy of Clinton but man .... maybe she could stop doing democratic smears on tucker and stop feeding into the narrative some. Shit I’ve seen never trumper republicans beg for debate moderators to ask her about the similarities in taking points vis a vis Russia.
By Fenderputty Go To PostBreh she was out there pulling a “I can’t help who supports me” when asked about the Russian troll support. I agree it’s slimy of Clinton but man …. maybe she could stop doing democratic smears on tucker and stop feeding into the narrative some. Shit I’ve seen never trumper republicans beg for debate moderators to ask her about the similarities in taking points vis a vis Russia.One day you're going to have accept that people watch Fox News too lol. All these agencies are shit but if one isn't determined to hang you out to dry with loaded questions then what are you gonna do?
Hell, if CNN could stop smearing their own candidates on behalf of the DNC in order to prop up people like Kamala then maybe you'd see the home party favoritism that we'd all like to enjoy.
Also, God forbid a candidate get on these moderators for throwing bullshit questions around. You said yourself they're shit.
By DY_nasty Go To PostOne day you're going to have accept that people watch Fox News too lol. .
At least I'm consistent. I shat all over Bernie when he did it too.
How many editors 'mistakes' and clownshoes narratives you gotta see before youre ready to say they're all the same brand of packaged shit tho
It's probably healthier to watch all or none than claim one is ethically superior than the other. At least Fox is straight up about their republican spin. CNN is only good for swinging from Trump's nuts, glossing over shills like Pelosi and Schumer, and telling us which Democrats aren't one of the good ones and it's been that way as soon as the election was over.
So what if Tucker is a dick, that's a big time slot. Running from audiences (or outright ignoring them right after a black vote comes in lolz) is kind of a problem they've always had. You got more smoke for her going on Fox news than you do for Hillary accusing someone of Treason on a podcast.
It's probably healthier to watch all or none than claim one is ethically superior than the other. At least Fox is straight up about their republican spin. CNN is only good for swinging from Trump's nuts, glossing over shills like Pelosi and Schumer, and telling us which Democrats aren't one of the good ones and it's been that way as soon as the election was over.
So what if Tucker is a dick, that's a big time slot. Running from audiences (or outright ignoring them right after a black vote comes in lolz) is kind of a problem they've always had. You got more smoke for her going on Fox news than you do for Hillary accusing someone of Treason on a podcast.
The use of treason there is no less hyperbolic than Clinton’s use of asset.
I will never support a dem going on Fox’s opinion programming. CNN is shit for its own reasons and so is MSNBC. Fox is another level though. They and the evengelicals are propping this entire admin up. literally state propaganda and that isn’t hyperbolic
I will never support a dem going on Fox’s opinion programming. CNN is shit for its own reasons and so is MSNBC. Fox is another level though. They and the evengelicals are propping this entire admin up. literally state propaganda and that isn’t hyperbolic
And it's not bad that CNN and NBC will peddle out bleeding heart bullshit to reach the same end? I told all of you guys that framing the immigration spin up the way that they did would lead to an executive order which would bring more privatization and contracting to the border along with DHS restructuring. It doesn't matter if one makes you feel better about the same result as the other. But zombie Mexican children at the border for Trump's war machine 😂
Everyone has their own brand of state propaganda. This ain't new. You want to say that these other mainstream places aren't propaganda too? You had every channel on TV trying to talk the American people into a war with Iran over a drone and boat that wasn't even ours. Yet, you guys are also shocked that they want us to go back to Syria to play peacekeeper between a four-way brawl when our Congress never approved of our complete involvement there in the first place.
Maybe there's a good degree of bullshit across the board and picking out your favorite brand is kinda silly. Ijs
Also come on, I throw out treason more than anyone else here. This an accusation of treason in any context. "They're just an asset, that's like soft treason :3" doesn't make it less deliberate of a classic McCarthy attack on another politician. Even Trump did his due diligence by trying to flex with a brand new president with zero experience. This is just a lazy and blatant shit toss and it's jacked up.
Also jacked up how the rest of these candidates just ducked because they're too shook to call it out as well. If they won't tell Hillary to step back then it's gonna be jokes when Trump does it to em.
Everyone has their own brand of state propaganda. This ain't new. You want to say that these other mainstream places aren't propaganda too? You had every channel on TV trying to talk the American people into a war with Iran over a drone and boat that wasn't even ours. Yet, you guys are also shocked that they want us to go back to Syria to play peacekeeper between a four-way brawl when our Congress never approved of our complete involvement there in the first place.
Maybe there's a good degree of bullshit across the board and picking out your favorite brand is kinda silly. Ijs
Also come on, I throw out treason more than anyone else here. This an accusation of treason in any context. "They're just an asset, that's like soft treason :3" doesn't make it less deliberate of a classic McCarthy attack on another politician. Even Trump did his due diligence by trying to flex with a brand new president with zero experience. This is just a lazy and blatant shit toss and it's jacked up.
Also jacked up how the rest of these candidates just ducked because they're too shook to call it out as well. If they won't tell Hillary to step back then it's gonna be jokes when Trump does it to em.
No bro. NBC and CNN don’t have direct line of communication with the AG. CNN and NBC aren’t being sued by Seth Rich’s family. They’re not equivalents
And CNN gets sued by their own employees for being racists and changing stories too lol.
If the AG wants to play favorites that's on him but when you've got Feinstein out here deliberately throwing half vetted sexual assault victims to the wolves for a narrative then you can't exactly expect fair play coverage from anyone.
In the past week you've had two examples of straight up doctored footage from democratic leaning networks. It's okay. They're all shit. One is cows the other is pig.
Next you're gonna tell me that only fox news has inspired violent attacks
If the AG wants to play favorites that's on him but when you've got Feinstein out here deliberately throwing half vetted sexual assault victims to the wolves for a narrative then you can't exactly expect fair play coverage from anyone.
In the past week you've had two examples of straight up doctored footage from democratic leaning networks. It's okay. They're all shit. One is cows the other is pig.
Next you're gonna tell me that only fox news has inspired violent attacks
How am I supposed to see when so much straw is being flung my way dude? Fox is a propaganda outlet. Dems doing Fox segments will get played. Just like Bernie did for a week after his town hall. Both siding how shit media is doesn't mean Dems should go onto republican propaganda networks. Me highlighting their shit propaganda doesn't mean I'm supporting shit media from MSNBC or CNN.
I'm not trying to attack your anything but just pointing out that it's kinda ridiculous to diss one network for something but not the others for doing the same shit. Getting upset when Trump does something but Hillary gets yet another pass. If it's a moral thing then I'm lost.
Guys have dove headfirst into my ass here for less lol
If you want a full picture I'd assume people would either watch all of these outlets or none for something like NPR or Reuters. But if it's a general election and a candidate wants airtime when her own home networks either broadcast a hitjob or screw them at debates, then it's not some ridiculous sin to get on TV - especially when the office demands you speak to everyone anyways... I mean, ignoring potential voters generally doesn't work out well either. Can't just wait til the last minute then blame the Russians all the time.
Guys have dove headfirst into my ass here for less lol
If you want a full picture I'd assume people would either watch all of these outlets or none for something like NPR or Reuters. But if it's a general election and a candidate wants airtime when her own home networks either broadcast a hitjob or screw them at debates, then it's not some ridiculous sin to get on TV - especially when the office demands you speak to everyone anyways... I mean, ignoring potential voters generally doesn't work out well either. Can't just wait til the last minute then blame the Russians all the time.
So again ... what help does it give her to go on a republican propaganda machine to cray poor at the DNC when her polling is abysmal and of no fault of the DNC? What help did Bernie get out of his town hall?
I do think the network is more garbage than the liberal equivalents, but that's besides the point for why I think it's also bad politics when Dems go on.
And to be clear I do think it was slimy of Hillary. Blank checks and all that though. You know there's going to be a lot more of this normalized shit that's gonna come. We're still over a year away.
I do think the network is more garbage than the liberal equivalents, but that's besides the point for why I think it's also bad politics when Dems go on.
And to be clear I do think it was slimy of Hillary. Blank checks and all that though. You know there's going to be a lot more of this normalized shit that's gonna come. We're still over a year away.
By Fenderputty Go To PostSo again … what help does it give her to go on a republican propaganda machine to cray poor at the DNC when her polling is abysmal and of no fault of the DNC? What help did Bernie get out of his town hall?The bolded is straight up bs.
I do think the network is more garbage than the liberal equivalents, but that's besides the point for why I think it's also bad politics when Dems go on.
And to be clear I do think it was slimy of Hillary. Blank checks and all that though. You know there's going to be a lot more of this normalized shit that's gonna come. We're still over a year away.
We know the DNC has been slimy for years now. Who knows what votes they say count and which don't. It was slimy when Bernie got hacked and it was slimy when they forced Obama to take on Hillary after he smoked her ass too.
Edit: those polls got nothing to do with this. ratings do.
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe bolded is straight up bs.
We know the DNC has been slimy for years now. Who knows what votes they say count and which don't. It was slimy when Bernie got hacked and it was slimy when they forced Obama to take on Hillary after he smoked her ass too.
Edit: those polls got nothing to do with this. ratings do.
The polls have everything to do with this. That's the audience a dem is trying to "reach". That's the state the audience is in and that's the effect Fox has had on that audience.
And it's not total bullshit. She killed one of the first debates, got a ton of exposure, became a search trend and then faded out like a wet fart because doing a google search of Tulsi is going to get you a whole mess of wild af results.
People been calling out Google throwing results all over the place and Twitter straight up erasing her trend since that night 😂 it took less than a day for people to catch on.
It's like you see shady, but immediately dismiss it in the same breath.
And those polls have nothing to do with viewership, which is the entire reason a candidate would ditch speaking under 5 minutes total at a debate for more visibility.
It's like you see shady, but immediately dismiss it in the same breath.
And those polls have nothing to do with viewership, which is the entire reason a candidate would ditch speaking under 5 minutes total at a debate for more visibility.
The ratings are my concern my dude. You'll note I've not contested they'll get exposure on Tuckers show.
Fair point on google I suppose, but it's not selling me on the DNC killed Tulsi angle.
Fair point on google I suppose, but it's not selling me on the DNC killed Tulsi angle.
By Fenderputty Go To PostDNC killed Tulsi
You bastards!
By Pac-12 Go To PostHe looks exactly how you imagined:
Worried about being demonized, says the Nazi.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWhere was this heat for Schumer when he showed up with Trump t-shirts
Abstained … Gabbard lololololololololol
U acting different
By rvy Go To Postthat hairstyle annoys me deeplyundercuts? I think they work fine but a lot of people get shit ones. It's also a cut you have to style or it looks awful.
Dems don't even believe in their own group efforts is why. Took them months to get to an impeachment decision and even on that front they're content to let social media and the post do all the heavy lifting...
Personally, if I didn’t want to be known as a dick eater, I would avoid eating bags of them publicly. That’s all I’m sayin’
It was a pretty weak pop shot on my part though. Quite a few Dems abstained. Clearly all in Putin’s pocket. Honestly have no clue why a dem would abstain. Pelosi should be cracking heads.
And in a serious note: I really do feel like fox is in a realm of its own man. And the ratings are the scary part. And the below is more of why I think it’s bad for Dems to go on. Listen to these lunatics. This is like Subreddit on national TV at this point.
It was a pretty weak pop shot on my part though. Quite a few Dems abstained. Clearly all in Putin’s pocket. Honestly have no clue why a dem would abstain. Pelosi should be cracking heads.
And in a serious note: I really do feel like fox is in a realm of its own man. And the ratings are the scary part. And the below is more of why I think it’s bad for Dems to go on. Listen to these lunatics. This is like Subreddit on national TV at this point.
By Fenderputty Go To PostPersonally, if I didn’t want to be known as a dick eater, I would avoid eating bags of them publicly. That’s all I’m sayin’Some of that is a joke man. Someone on the emerging threats committee is obviously not going to lap up the same drivel as the rest of Congress and it's something you'd like to see considering how quickly we jumped into Iraq on the exact same premise... Considering she actually went while the rest of these shmucks are pretending that they care about the Kurds when they couldn't even be bothered to ask what was promised to them in the first place when we armed the region with shit we pulled out of Libya too?
It was a pretty weak pop shot on my part though. Quite a few Dems abstained. Clearly all in Putin’s pocket. Honestly have no clue why a dem would abstain. Pelosi should be cracking heads.
And in a serious note: I really do feel like fox is in a realm of its own man. And the ratings are the scary part. And the below is more of why I think it’s bad for Dems to go on. Listen to these lunatics. This is like Subreddit on national TV at this point.
And ffs if you were going to send any congressman to India, you'd probably send one with Indian heritage oh and maybe a woman so that hopefully they can acknowledge their women's rights issues at some point this century. Nope. Now that's palling around with Indian right wing groups because we definitely follow those closely over here.
As for that? Meh. I vividly remember arguing on this site that no, not only republicans can be sex offenders.
That was a thing lol
Fuck Lou Dobbs.
Also as an aside and just to be petty, that fucking hair. He tryin to compete with Rudy for worst dye job?
Also as an aside and just to be petty, that fucking hair. He tryin to compete with Rudy for worst dye job?
Liberal minority government in Canada. Liberals with NDP and possibly Bloc trending the country further left is a-okay with me.
By rvy Go To Postthat hairstyle annoys me deeplyonly works when you have high cheekbones innit?
By Perfect Blue Go To PostLiberal minority government in Canada. Liberals with NDP and possibly Bloc trending the country further left is a-okay with me.Fuck
By Lunatic Go To PostFuckhttps://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/singh-says-ndp-would-form-coalition-with-the-liberals-to-stop-tories
“Earlier this week, Singh laid out the six conditions he would have to support a minority government including climate change action, national pharmacare, interest free student loans, cuts to cell phone bills and investments in affordable housing, as well as a new tax on the “ultra-rich.””
GIMME DAT
Great that they want to defend Tulsi, doesn't change that there's tons of information out there on what she has said and done that is pretty much alarming.
She also has a relationship with a lot of right wing groups. A lot of right wing figures adore and gave their support to her.
The reason why she fascinated me in the first place is because of this. She's still a member of a right leaning religious group. Her rise to being a US Representative was funded by the right leaning RSS. She went to meet Assad, on the dime of two officials from SSNP. She advertises on Breitbart. She has hired Chris Cooper, which is another colorful read.
All of this accumulate. It's not a one time thing, it's not that she only has support of one or two right wing figures. It's a whole plethora of political decisions, and relationships.
She also has a relationship with a lot of right wing groups. A lot of right wing figures adore and gave their support to her.
The reason why she fascinated me in the first place is because of this. She's still a member of a right leaning religious group. Her rise to being a US Representative was funded by the right leaning RSS. She went to meet Assad, on the dime of two officials from SSNP. She advertises on Breitbart. She has hired Chris Cooper, which is another colorful read.
All of this accumulate. It's not a one time thing, it's not that she only has support of one or two right wing figures. It's a whole plethora of political decisions, and relationships.
lol the only thing Hillary is doing here is helping Tulsi' flagging campaign by mobilizing the Hillary-haters