Not even islands are safe from a winter wave of unvaxxed morons.
Also, even if you are vaxxed, you might still catch it rough. Especially vulnerable groups.
Also, even if you are vaxxed, you might still catch it rough. Especially vulnerable groups.
By inky Go To PostNot even islands are safe from a winter wave of unvaxxed morons.And we know that vaccine efficacy is waning but just good enough to prevent hospitalization ... for now.
Also, even if you are vaxxed, you might still catch it rough. Especially vulnerable groups.
We keep playing this game and every time we drop our guard shit just escalates into worse.
April was supposed to be the month we were moving on from this good and then delta made shit worse than even last winter. It's also fall season now which means flu season.
Again we would only be letting in vacinnated travellers like basically every other western country so what do we have to fear with such high vaccination rates?
We have already started our roll out for boosters. We get all our shit from the UK quick.
We have already started our roll out for boosters. We get all our shit from the UK quick.
By Lunatic Go To PostAgain we would only be letting in vacinnated travellers like basically every other western country so what do we have to fear with such high vaccination rates?Breh the people going to Hawaii were vaccinated too and they had their worse outbreak yet
By reilo Go To Postwow how dare they try to keep you safe and take this seriouslytbf, hawaii's economy is bottoming out probably killed more people than rona did out there
MAYBE JUST MAYBE you should look beyond vaccination numbers and understand that tourists coming in can fuck your entire shit up. Hawaii was better off not being vaccinated but keeping tourism out.
shit was superbad
Idk what we believe we're going towards if even a 90% vaccinated population refuses to go back to pre covid activities
We aren't able to prevent mutations or anything similar no matter how hard we try, there's a point where we need to admit vaccines is the best way to beat the virus at the moment and try to regain normalcy
We aren't able to prevent mutations or anything similar no matter how hard we try, there's a point where we need to admit vaccines is the best way to beat the virus at the moment and try to regain normalcy
We're just ignoring children under 12 not being eligible for the vaccine and the fact that delta is pretty dangerous to them?
Seems to be a lot of focus on getting the adults back to "normalcy"
Seems to be a lot of focus on getting the adults back to "normalcy"
By Not Go To PostUnemployment in Hawaii was 24% last October?? Yikesand that was *after* the exodus caused from the tourist/service industries imploding.
the public services and medical infrastructure out there was barely holding on when everything was going smooth.
Had a recent outbreak in a prep school here of that. Did nothing to the younger kids. Also isn't the vaccine in the process of being approved for 5+?
Just don't know what the end goal is? Are we just supposed to be shut forever. Not everybody here has jobs that can just be done from home or in an office.
Just don't know what the end goal is? Are we just supposed to be shut forever. Not everybody here has jobs that can just be done from home or in an office.
By reilo Go To PostWe're just ignoring children under 12 not being eligible for the vaccine and the fact that delta is pretty dangerous to them?There is a rush to get back to normalcy because 2 years of the economy being shut down and everyone being stuck indoors is not good for anyone in any way possible, the kids included. Once the vaccines are approved for kids I don't see a reason to believe anyone is tempting fate by trying to return to a pre covid level of life
Seems to be a lot of focus on getting the adults back to "normalcy"
My countrys economy literally being keep alive by the ultra wealthy. Seems just ignoring the other 40% of the economy is just fine as they seem to be able to live on scraps and having their livelihoods destroyed.
By Lunatic Go To PostSafe from what exactly? Basically the entire population is vacinnated. What's the point of vaccinations if we can't get back to normal? If only people who are vaccinated are allowed in what are we really doing. You're American political climate has fucked with your head. Everyone is so over covid here. People are suffering from loss of income and businesses are failing.If the numbers are real and will only allow vaxd travellers then why the restrictions? Every government likes money so the numbers gotta be fake
They aren't.
By s y Go To PostIf the numbers are real and will only allow vaxd travellers then why the restrictions? Every government likes money so the numbers gotta be fakeIf you think a government overseen by the crown via the the governor is going to fudge medical records you have another thing coming. Not just one government too but two separate governments that came into power. I could explain more but it's probably not worth it.
By reilo Go To PostWe're just ignoring children under 12 not being eligible for the vaccine and the fact that delta is pretty dangerous to them?Kids don't help the economy, Reilo.
Seems to be a lot of focus on getting the adults back to "normalcy"
Kids also get low nutrition and poor home life when their parents can't make any money so sure think that way.
By DY_nasty Go To Postthat's not exactly the best trade off lolIt's a hugely important one, among many other reasons.
Dunno if those children are getting tested on a regular basis in Lunatics case, but those vaccine rates are pretty damn incredible and don't really give a reason to continue shut stuff down.
By Xpike Go To PostThere is a rush to get back to normalcy because 2 years of the economy being shut down and everyone being stuck indoors is not good for anyone in any way possible, the kids included. Once the vaccines are approved for kids I don't see a reason to believe anyone is tempting fate by trying to return to a pre covid level of lifeor it's time to admit normalcy is changing. Because it is.
By Lunatic Go To PostKids also get low nutrition and poor home life when their parents can't make any money so sure think that way.This is super important. In a city near my house, Kawaguchi, the reason why they continue to push to have schools open is because 49% of elementary students get their only proper meal at lunch. I have to figure the national numbers aren't drastically different.
By reilo Go To PostI bet it's the opposite in the US cause school food here is absolute garbage and non-nutritiousI would bet even as bad as the food is that's the best a lot of kids are getting.
By DY_nasty Go To PostWay too many kids in the US count on school for food in generalYup. Like, even in well-to-do areas, a ton of kids qualify for free or reduced lunch. It really might be the only guaranteed meal they get all day.
By DY_nasty Go To PostWay too many kids in the US count on school for food in generalVery much the same here for the low income families. When the recent outbreak in the public school happened last week the government has been providing meals to all the families in mandatory quarantine for the 14 day period.
A lot low income families here rely on private charities to provide them food every day and also in some cases for home repair if they are living in squalid conditions.
It's a big reason why I wasn't all for shitting on churches in the US. Not all of them are full of fuckheads and even the lunatics will outperform most city and state public support projects.
By DY_nasty Go To PostIt's a big reason why I wasn't all for shitting on churches in the US. Not all of them are full of fuckheads and even the lunatics will outperform most city and state public support projects.Yep they do a ton way more than they are given credit for helping the needy.
By blackace Go To Postor it's time to admit normalcy is changing. Because it is.the normal has changed forever sure, but we arent going to stay indoors forever either
Haven't had a new case in my region of Denmark for like 12 days, feels crazy as we opened up everything a few months ago. But winter really is coming now
By Xpike Go To Postthe normal has changed forever sure, but we arent going to stay indoors forever eitherWhat do you believe the normalcy will be? People go out now, eat out, meet with friends and whatever.. What are you looking for exactly? People and governments are going to continue to be careful, and rightful so..
I honestly don't think it's unreasonable especially for small island states to make sure that their visitors have their shit together even if vaccinated. We know for a fact that asymptomatic breakthrough cases with high viral load exist.
Holding on to two week(ish) quarantine on travel was huge for Hawaii tbh
It was backed up and reinforced by a genuine hate for white folks from the mainland, but it still was a solid plan overall.
It was backed up and reinforced by a genuine hate for white folks from the mainland, but it still was a solid plan overall.
By reilo Go To PostI honestly don't think it's unreasonable especially for small island states to make sure that their visitors have their shit together even if vaccinated. We know for a fact that asymptomatic breakthrough cases with high viral load exist.We honestly get a few of these breakthroughs every now and again. Today for travelers it was 4 positives with 3 unvaccinated and 1 vaccinated all asymptomatic.
From what I've seen its basically 25% to 33% chance of getting it when vaccinated.
By blackace Go To PostWhat do you believe the normalcy will be? People go out now, eat out, meet with friends and whatever.. What are you looking for exactly? People and governments are going to continue to be careful, and rightful so..Concerts, movie going, parties, full nightclubs, tourism, all of those are going to return everywhere, and without masks or distancing (I know in the US they never left but in here we're still going to restaurants with tables 6 feet apart)
Schooling will probably implement a hybrid model if not just go back to everyone having to go to school/college.
For any grade below college school desertion and low grades have been a big concern at least here with a bunch of students just disappearing from the system, plus from anecdotal evidence most students that do stay normally have a subpar experience because keeping focus in virtual classes is way harder and most teachers cannot adapt their classes in an effective way.
As an aside as a teacher myself a lot of fun activities you could do with classes are simply not possible virtually so that's a big blow
The biggest change I can see sticking is work from home becoming a viable option for employers, but that definitely depends on whether companies believe the increased productivity is worth not being able to breathe down everyone's necks
By DY_nasty Go To PostHolding on to two week(ish) quarantine on travel was huge for Hawaii tbhSingapore did 21 days and I don't think they were wrong
It was backed up and reinforced by a genuine hate for white folks from the mainland, but it still was a solid plan overall.
By Xpike Go To PostConcerts, movie going, parties, full nightclubs, tourism, all of those are going to return everywhere, and without masks or distancing (I know in the US they never left but in here we're still going to restaurants with tables 6 feet apart)I teach as well and not being able to create online curriculum seems to be an excuse rather than a fact. It doesn't help that one week there are classes and definitely will not be online and the next week it's online. BoEs needed to be ready for remote learning years ago. It's embarrassing.
Schooling will probably implement a hybrid model if not just go back to everyone having to go to school/college.
For any grade below college school desertion and low grades have been a big concern at least here with a bunch of students just disappearing from the system, plus from anecdotal evidence most students that do stay normally have a subpar experience because keeping focus in virtual classes is way harder and most teachers cannot adapt their classes in an effective way.
As an aside as a teacher myself a lot of fun activities you could do with classes are simply not possible virtually so that's a big blow
The biggest change I can see sticking is work from home becoming a viable option for employers, but that definitely depends on whether companies believe the increased productivity is worth not being able to breathe down everyone's necks
As for concerts and shit 🤷🏾♂️ They'll be back sometime but no need to force the shit. Bars and clubs should enforce masks and vax ids until then. This is coming from somebody who has suffered financial losses in that field and it's still fuck a concert and wear a mask if you are vaxxed and go out
WASHINGTON — After weeks of internal strife at the Food and Drug Administration, the agency on Wednesday authorized people over 65 who had received Pfizer-BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine to get a booster shot at least six months after their second injection..
(Reuters) - Singapore’s health ministry reported 1,457 new COVID-19 cases on Wednesday, the highest since April last year.I'm saying...
A recent rise in cases after the relaxation of some COVID-19 measures has prompted Singapore to pause further reopening. More than 80% of its population has been vaccinated against COVID-19.
NYC got like 2000 daily cases and only about 10 deaths per day, it is not a perfect solution but we aren't going to completely annhilate the virus and better treatments for the people who still go to the hospital only come with time
I think the idea of getting the medical system to point where it is not critical and can handle any upticks. It's not there.
Because 2000 cases a day is 60,000 people per month 😂
if 20,000 need serious medical help a month and the turn around is 14 to 21 days that's a lot strain.
Because 2000 cases a day is 60,000 people per month 😂
if 20,000 need serious medical help a month and the turn around is 14 to 21 days that's a lot strain.
We have 4 hospitals, 3 of which are able to handle covid patients and are on the main island. Fucking government decided to take the upper limit of statistical population level as the actual population. So basically the new government that got voted in and changed what was regarded as the actual population of the country in mid April 2021 to a different level of population from the previous government.
England removed all restrictions in July and, despite predictions of apocalypse, nothing really happened. Scotland maintained some restrictions and have seen cases explode in September. Quarantine has continued in the UK for some countries, but for many you just have to be vaccinated and take tests after arrival.
By blackace Go To Postlol besides going from 14k new cases per day to 38k per day. Fuckin horrible. 😂Are you referring to England? Restrictions were lifted on July 19th, which was coincidentally the peak for cases, with 40k. Since then the average has been hovering around 25k.
I think you have only been under 25k like 6 times since July 1st, I did not do the math but I can see it hovering around 25k when you have so many 30k+ days and even a quite a few 40k and a few 50k days to go in there.. but maybe it does average out to 25k..
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101947/coronavirus-cases-development-uk/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101947/coronavirus-cases-development-uk/
By blackace Go To PostI think you have only been under 25k like 6 times since July 1st, I did not do the math but I can see it hovering around 25k when you have so many 30k+ days and even a quite a few 40k and a few 50k days to go in there.. but maybe it does average out to 25k..Oh, as I had originally referred to the difference between England and Scotland restrictions, the case numbers I mentioned above are England only. What you've posted is the UK as a whole, which had a summer peak of nearly 50k avg and has since ranged around 30-35k cases.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101947/coronavirus-cases-development-uk/
To look at England only, or other UK nations, go here:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=nation&areaName=England
fair enough. but with that in mind, England makes a huge bulk the UK cases which also seems to be not good. 🤷🏾♂️
By blackace Go To Postfair enough. but with that in mind, England makes a huge bulk the UK cases which also seems to be not good. 🤷🏾♂️Well England does have 10x as many people as Scotland. It's 85% of the UK population.
By sohois Go To PostWell England does have 10x as many people as Scotland. It's 85% of the UK population.Still bad numbers, especially when they were looking good in June. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️